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The Inherent Tragedy Of Geopolitics With Robert Kaplan And John Gray

How the insights of the Greek tragedians, as well as Shakespeare and modern philosophers and classic authors, can help us understand the central subjects of international politics

The great dilemmas of geopolitics are not battles of good against evil, where the choices are clear. They are contests of good against good, where the choices are often painful, incompatible and fraught with consequence. That’s the argument that political scientist Robert Kaplan made when he came to Intelligence Squared on May 22 to talk about his acclaimed new book The Tragic Mind: Fear, Fate, and the Burden of Power. 

Kaplan’s ideas come not from the armchair or ivory tower but from a career spent reporting on wars, revolutions, and international politics in Europe, the Middle East and East Asia. His conclusion is that the essence of geopolitics – the battle of space and power played out over a geographical setting – is tragedy, at the core of which is the necessity for humans to understand their limitations and know that not every problem can be fixed. Hence what he sees as the hubris of the Iraq war, when Western leaders thought that they could fix a problem abroad, only to wreak havoc because they failed to ‘think tragically’. 

Joining Kaplan in conversation was the political philosopher John Gray, who has said of Kaplan’s book, ‘If there is a single contemporary book that should be pressed into the hands of those who decide issues of war and peace, this is it.’ Together they discussed how the insights of the Greek tragedians – Aeschylus, Sophocles and Euripides – as well as Shakespeare and modern philosophers and classic authors can help us understand the central subjects of international politics: order, disorder, rebellion, ambition, loyalty to family and state, violence, and the mistakes of power. And they explored how viewing events through a tragic lens could guide the West’s strategy for dealing with Russia and China today. 

Praise for Robert Kaplan’s The Tragic Mind: Fear, Fate, and the Burden of Power

A moving culmination by one of America’s most thoughtful observers of international trends.’ – Henry A. Kissinger

This is an author who has made it his business to see the world we live in. I have always read his work with awe. In this book, Kaplan takes the reader beyond the realm of information and knowledge and into the territory of wisdom. It is a profound must-read for all who wish to understand the world as it is.’ – Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Robert Kaplan combines his knowledge of the classics with four decades of firsthand experience with wars and crises to wisely warn ahistorical Americans that all could have been helped by a greater tragic sensibility. He shows that tragedy is not fatalism or despair, but comprehension. A beautifully thoughtful essay.’ – Joseph S. Nye

 


Speakers

Speaker

Robert D. Kaplan

Robert Strausz-Hupé Chair in Geopolitics at the Foreign Policy Research Institute and author of The Tragic Mind: Fear, Fate, and the Burden of Power  


Robert Strausz-Hupé Chair in Geopolitics at the Foreign Policy Research Institute. He has twice been named one of the world’s Top 100 Global Thinkers by Foreign Policy. A reporter with decades of experience writing for The Atlantic, he has written 21 books, including Adriatic; The Good American; The Revenge of Geography; Asia’s Cauldron; Monsoon; The Coming Anarchy; and Balkan Ghosts. He has served on the Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board and the U.S. Navy’s Executive Panel.  
Chair

John Gray

One of the UK’s most popular political philosophers whose latest book is The New Leviathans: Thoughts After Liberalism


One of the UK’s best known and most popular philosophers. Between 1998 and 2007 he was Professor of European Thought at the London School of Economics, and since 2008 he has been Emeritus Professor there. He has published over twenty books, including Gray’s Anatomy: Selected Writings; The Silence of Animals: Thoughts on Progress and Other Modern Myths, Seven Types of Atheism and Feline Philosophy. He writes regularly for The New Statesman. His new book is the The New Leviathans: Thoughts After Liberalism.