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Verdi vs Wagner: The 200th Birthday Debate, with Stephen Fry

A debate to celebrate the bicentenary of the two greatest opera composers of the 19th century.

Think opera and you think Verdi. Verdi created some of the most beloved operas of all time, from the romantic tragedy of La traviata and Rigoletto to the Shakespearian dramas of MacbethOtello and Falstaff Verdi’s music transcends the barriers between high and low culture. Many of his arias count among the greatest songs ever written, streaming out of opera houses and into football stadiums and even the charts. Verdi was also the outstanding cultural figure at the heart of the unification of Italy, the musical father of the Risorgimento. Who needs Wagner when Verdi offers such richness?

People who truly appreciate great music, say the Wagnerians. Wagner’s music is on an altogether more intellectual sphere. You hum Verdi; you think Wagner. Here is opera, and music, at its epic, definitive height.

To know The Ring is to be fully immersed in opera at its greatest technical brilliance and compositional originality. To appreciate Wagner’s music is not to forgive his political views, but to cast them aside in the face of irresistible, unassailable genius.


Speakers

Chair

Stephen Fry

Celebrated actor, writer and broadcaster


Celebrated comedian, actor, writer, presenter, and activist. His acting roles have included a Golden Globe Award–nominated lead performance in the film 'Wilde', and he has also written and presented several documentary series, including the Emmy Award–winning 'Stephen Fry: The Secret Life of the Manic Depressive'. He was also the long-time host of the BBC television quiz show QI, with his tenure lasting from 2003 to 2016.
Featuring

Norman Lebrecht

Historian, critic, broadcaster and award-winning novelist, whose next book is Why Beethoven: A Phenomenon in One Hundred Pieces


Historian, cultural commentator, broadcaster and award-winning novelist. His 12 books about music have been translated into 17 languages. Among his bestselling titles are The Maestro Myth, Who Killed Classical Music? and Why Mahler? His first novel The Song of Names won a Whitbread (now Costa) Award in 2003. It was filmed in 2018-19 with Tim Roth and Clive Owen in the leading roles. In 2020 he published Genius and Anxiety: How Jews Changed the World, 1847-1947. Two collections of Lebrecht essays have been published in China, the first by any western cultural commentator. He writes a monthly column in The Critic and occasionally in The Spectator. His blog, Slipped Disc, is the world’s most popular cultural news site, drawing two million readers every month. He has lectured at cultural institutions and leading universities worldwide and is a guest professor at the Shanghai Conservatoire of Music. His forthcoming book Why Beethoven: A Phenomenon in One Hundred Pieces will be published in February 2023.   

Philip Hensher

Novelist, critic and journalist


Novelist, critic and journalist. His 2008 novel The Northern Clemency was shortlisted for the Man Booker Prize and he writes regularly for The Independent, The Spectator and Mail on Sunday

Paul Wynne Griffiths

Internationally renowned conductor and accompanist


Internationally renowned conductor and accompanist.

Dušica Bijelić

Soprano


Soprano.

John Tomlinson

Bass


Bass.