Ever since she was a young child, journalist Hayley Campbell has been fascinated by death and in February 2023 she came to Intelligence Squared to talk about the themes of her new book All the Living and the Dead: An Exploration of the People Who Make Death Their Life’s Work, which has been acclaimed by the likes of Neil Gaiman, Nigella Lawson and Tuppence Middleton. In conversation with writer Blanche Girouard, Campbell related the encounters she has had with the people who make a living by working with the dead, including mass fatality investigators, embalmers and a former executioner who is responsible for ending 62 lives. She described the gravediggers who have already dug their own graves, a cryonics facility she visited in Michigan, and a man whose job it is to make crime scenes disappear.