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Trump, Russia and the Forgotten Working Class, with National Security Expert Fiona Hill

Is the decline of opportunity and dignified working class jobs is leading nations like Britain and America down the path of populist authoritarianism?

Growing up in Northern England’s coal-mining community, Fiona Hill knew that she was in a forgotten place. The last of the mines had closed, shops were boarded up, and despair was etched on the faces of people around her. Her father urged her to get out of northern England: ‘There is nothing for you here, pet,’ he said.

The coal-miner’s daughter went far. She studied in Moscow and at Harvard, became an American citizen and served three U.S. Presidents. But in the heartlands of both Russia and the United States, she saw the same problems she had witnessed in her hometown and similar populist impulses. By the time she offered testimony in the first impeachment inquiry of President Donald Trump in 2019, Hill knew that the desperation of forgotten communities was driving American politics to the brink.

In January 2022 Hill came to Intelligence Squared with senior journalist at The Sunday Times, Josh Glancy, to argue that the decline of opportunity and dignified working class jobs is leading nations like Britain and America down the path of populist authoritarianism. And she outlined how from Middlesbrough to Michigan, ambitious programmes to expand opportunity are the only long-term hope for our democracy.


Speakers

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Fiona Hill

Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution, Chancellor of Durham University


Senior fellow in the Center on the United States and Europe at the Brookings Institution and Chancellor of Durham University. Hill served as deputy assistant to the president and senior director for European and Russian affairs on the US National Security Council from 2017 to 2019, as well as national intelligence officer for Russia and Eurasia at the US National Intelligence Council from 2006 to 2009. Hill has researched and published extensively on issues related to Russia, the Caucasus, regional conflicts, and strategic issues, as well as the link between deindustrialisation and political populism. She is the author of the bestselling memoir There Is Nothing for You Here: Finding Opportunity in the 21st Century and co-author of Mr. Putin: Operative in the Kremlin. In December 2023, Hill was recognised by the United Kingdom as a Companion of the Order of St Michael and St George, for services to international relations, and in July 2024, she was appointed by Prime Minister Keir Starmer to be an external reviewer for a Strategic Defence Review for the Ministry of Defence of the United Kingdom.
Chair

Josh Glancy

Editor of News Review at The Sunday Times


Editor of News Review at The Sunday Times where he also contributes regular columns and features. Previously he was the paper’s special correspondent, writing about everything from politics and football to AI and monarchy. Before that, Josh spent five years in America, where he was the paper’s Washington correspondent and before that New York correspondent, also contributing a regular magazine column on life in the States. Josh has been nominated three times for feature writer and interviewer of the year, at the Press Awards and British Journalism Awards.