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Resetting the Conversation on Race with Coleman Hughes and Kenan Malik

Join two original thinkers from both sides of the Atlantic for a conversation on one of the most important issues of our times

Does the conversation on race need a reset? 

That is the question that Coleman Hughes and Kenan Malik explored when they came to Intelligence Squared in January 2022. Hughes is an acclaimed American writer and podcast host. In 2019 at the age of 23 he testified before Congress against reparations for slavery and has roundly criticised the work of other Black writers on race such as Ibram X. Kendi and Robin DiAngelo. In his view, their brand of anti-racism encourages a sense of victimhood among Black Americans and sows division between different racial groups. Malik is a British author and broadcaster, whose new book Not So Black and White explores the history of the idea of race and invites us to challenge many of the assumptions behind today’s culture wars. Are Black or Asian people who are conservative or don’t fit the script in some other way not really Black or Asian but straining to be white, as some anti-racists suggest? Do the current conversations about race hide the reality of class-based injustice? Can we ultimately free ourselves from racial categories while also ridding society of racism?  

Praise for Kenan Malik’s Not So Black and White: A History of Race from White Supremacy to Identity Politics

‘A precious provocation. Combining valuable historical observations with acute political commentary, Malik unsettles the absurdities, pieties and default settings of contemporary race-talk.’ — Paul Gilroy, author of The Black Atlantic

‘From one of our keenest and clearest guides through the labyrinths of identity, this book fills me with hope. A tour de force of courageous and empathetic common sense.’ — Thomas Chatterton Williams, author of Self-Portrait in Black and White

‘This erudite, sensitive book overturns the core assumptions of contemporary identity politics. Highly recommended for all looking beyond the narrow confines of purity politics to embrace the complexities of what it is to be human, and construct a better world.’ — Olúfẹ́mi Táíwò, author of Against Decolonisation







Coleman Hughes

Writer and opinion columnist specialising in race, public policy and applied ethics. He is the host of the podcast Conversations with Coleman

Writer, podcaster and opinion columnist who specialises in issues related to race, public policy and applied ethics. Coleman’s writing has been featured in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, National Review, Quillette, The City Journal and The Spectator. He has appeared on many TV shows and podcasts, including Real Time with Bill Maher, Making Sense with Sam Harris, and The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast. Born and raised in northern New Jersey, Coleman briefly attended the Juilliard School to study jazz trombone before dropping out to pursue a career as an independent jazz/hip-hop artist. Shortly thereafter, Coleman discovered a passion for applied ethics and public policy at Columbia University, where he graduated with a B.A. in philosophy.  

Kenan Malik

Writer and broadcaster, whose latest book is Not So Black and White: A History of Race from White Supremacy to Identity Politics

Writer, lecturer, broadcaster and Observer columnist. A former panellist on BBC Radio 4’s The Moral Maze, he has presented BBC Radio 3's Nightwaves and Radio 4's Analysis. His books include The Quest for a Moral Compass, From Fatwa to Jihad, which was shortlisted for the Orwell Prize, and his new book Not So Black and White: A History of Race from White Supremacy to Identity Politics.